Comments on: Spinach Oshitashi http://www.juliesrawambition.com/2008/08/spinach-oshitashi/ Digest of a Natural Foods Gourmet & Well-Being Enthusiast Fri, 27 Jan 2012 01:08:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: apryllmarie http://www.juliesrawambition.com/2008/08/spinach-oshitashi/comment-page-1/#comment-729 apryllmarie Mon, 03 Oct 2011 06:11:00 +0000 http://juliesrawambition.wordpress.com/?p=419#comment-729 This is an awesome site! This is an awesome site!

]]> By: juliek http://www.juliesrawambition.com/2008/08/spinach-oshitashi/comment-page-1/#comment-651 juliek Fri, 25 Mar 2011 17:18:00 +0000 http://juliesrawambition.wordpress.com/?p=419#comment-651 This is a vegetarian website. Fish wouldn't fall under that category. But thanks for the suggestion. This is a vegetarian website. Fish wouldn’t fall under that category. But thanks for the suggestion.

]]> By: Night Owl http://www.juliesrawambition.com/2008/08/spinach-oshitashi/comment-page-1/#comment-650 Night Owl Fri, 25 Mar 2011 17:13:00 +0000 http://juliesrawambition.wordpress.com/?p=419#comment-650 Sprinkle dried flakes of bonita fish on top, NOT sesame seeds. Sprinkle dried flakes of bonita fish on top, NOT sesame seeds.

]]> By: Nonghead-webspam http://www.juliesrawambition.com/2008/08/spinach-oshitashi/comment-page-1/#comment-567 Nonghead-webspam Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:45:02 +0000 http://juliesrawambition.wordpress.com/?p=419#comment-567 In further reading, I did see that there is some controversy on the subject. Except all the references on "raw oxalic good" points to this one and only source, Cousen's book.<br><br>I would be interested in what exact research he did to come to his views, and why there are not more sources for this opinion (that don't refer back to him as a source).<br><br>I might be the one that's wrong here, but I see MANY sources for the "raw oxalic bad", and only ONE source for "raw oxalic good".<br><br>I'm distrusting of this, particularly given that some diet regimens can foster almost political or religious beliefs in followers, and objectivity can go out the window. <br><br>So, I'm willing to be a bit more "I guess the verdict is still out", but I'm still leaning towards the non-raw camp in regards to oxalates until I see some objective research to the contrary. In further reading, I did see that there is some controversy on the subject. Except all the references on “raw oxalic good” points to this one and only source, Cousen's book.

I would be interested in what exact research he did to come to his views, and why there are not more sources for this opinion (that don't refer back to him as a source).

I might be the one that's wrong here, but I see MANY sources for the “raw oxalic bad”, and only ONE source for “raw oxalic good”.

I'm distrusting of this, particularly given that some diet regimens can foster almost political or religious beliefs in followers, and objectivity can go out the window.

So, I'm willing to be a bit more “I guess the verdict is still out”, but I'm still leaning towards the non-raw camp in regards to oxalates until I see some objective research to the contrary.

]]> By: juliek http://www.juliesrawambition.com/2008/08/spinach-oshitashi/comment-page-1/#comment-566 juliek Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:21:15 +0000 http://juliesrawambition.wordpress.com/?p=419#comment-566 I don't agree. Much more to this, and the wording in the article is a little vague, it only refers to the oxalic acid being "broken down" in cooking and perhaps not interfering with the absorption of calcium... But oxalic acid's chemical structure is altered when cooked and it is this process that contributes to the formation of kidney stones - in addition to calcium binding. <br><br>My husband unfortunately suffers from chronic kidney stones and we've been extensively counseled on this by nutritionists and our doctor.<br><br>Here's an excerpt from Dr. Gabriel Cousen's book "Conscious Eating": "Once foods containing oxalic acid are cooked...the oxalic acid becomes dead and irritating substance to the system. In its cooked form it binds irreversibly with the calcium and prevents calcium absorption. An excess of cooked oxalic acid may also form oxalic acid crystals in the kidney. In the live organic form of oxalic acid, oxalic acid stones and calcium blockage do not occur because the organic oxalic acid can be metabolized appropriately. Oxalic acid in its raw form is one of the important minerals needed to maintain tone and peristalsis of the bowel."<br><br>I know there's been some debate on this topic, but there's no disputing that cooking - leafy greens especially - destroys enzymes, vitamins, minerals, and so are not recognized the same or absorbed by the body like they are raw. I don't agree. Much more to this, and the wording in the article is a little vague, it only refers to the oxalic acid being “broken down” in cooking and perhaps not interfering with the absorption of calcium… But oxalic acid's chemical structure is altered when cooked and it is this process that contributes to the formation of kidney stones – in addition to calcium binding.

My husband unfortunately suffers from chronic kidney stones and we've been extensively counseled on this by nutritionists and our doctor.

Here's an excerpt from Dr. Gabriel Cousen's book “Conscious Eating”: “Once foods containing oxalic acid are cooked…the oxalic acid becomes dead and irritating substance to the system. In its cooked form it binds irreversibly with the calcium and prevents calcium absorption. An excess of cooked oxalic acid may also form oxalic acid crystals in the kidney. In the live organic form of oxalic acid, oxalic acid stones and calcium blockage do not occur because the organic oxalic acid can be metabolized appropriately. Oxalic acid in its raw form is one of the important minerals needed to maintain tone and peristalsis of the bowel.”

I know there's been some debate on this topic, but there's no disputing that cooking – leafy greens especially – destroys enzymes, vitamins, minerals, and so are not recognized the same or absorbed by the body like they are raw.

]]> By: Nonghead-webspam http://www.juliesrawambition.com/2008/08/spinach-oshitashi/comment-page-1/#comment-565 Nonghead-webspam Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:00:34 +0000 http://juliesrawambition.wordpress.com/?p=419#comment-565 Sorry, you've got it flip-flopped. Cooking gets rid of the oxalic acid. Raw does not.<br><br>here's one link. I'm sure you can find many others:<br><br><a href="http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/QAA400344/Avoid-Vegetables-with-Oxalic-Acid.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/QAA400344/Avoid-Veg...</a> Sorry, you've got it flip-flopped. Cooking gets rid of the oxalic acid. Raw does not.

here's one link. I'm sure you can find many others:

http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/QAA400344/Avoid-Veg…

]]> By: juliek http://www.juliesrawambition.com/2008/08/spinach-oshitashi/comment-page-1/#comment-564 juliek Tue, 13 Jul 2010 20:47:04 +0000 http://juliesrawambition.wordpress.com/?p=419#comment-564 Yes, you are correct about the oxalic acid. This is why spinach should always be eaten raw, and this a raw, not cooked, process - so no worries. Yes, you are correct about the oxalic acid. This is why spinach should always be eaten raw, and this a raw, not cooked, process – so no worries.

]]> By: Nonghead-webspam http://www.juliesrawambition.com/2008/08/spinach-oshitashi/comment-page-1/#comment-563 Nonghead-webspam Tue, 13 Jul 2010 20:41:01 +0000 http://juliesrawambition.wordpress.com/?p=419#comment-563 Will this method convert the oxalic acid to something less harmful, as cooking does? Oxalic acid in raw spinach (and other plants containing it) binds with calcium in the food intake, preventing the body from assimilating the calcium, and possibly leading to kidney stones (due to calcium oxalates in the bloodstream), among other things. Will this method convert the oxalic acid to something less harmful, as cooking does? Oxalic acid in raw spinach (and other plants containing it) binds with calcium in the food intake, preventing the body from assimilating the calcium, and possibly leading to kidney stones (due to calcium oxalates in the bloodstream), among other things.

]]> By: omgsoy http://www.juliesrawambition.com/2008/08/spinach-oshitashi/comment-page-1/#comment-536 omgsoy Fri, 18 Jun 2010 04:12:16 +0000 http://juliesrawambition.wordpress.com/?p=419#comment-536 this is amazing. so good. it reminds me of gomaae but without the boiling. perfect! this is amazing. so good. it reminds me of gomaae but without the boiling. perfect!

]]> By: Spinach Waffle Nougat? « 365 Foods http://www.juliesrawambition.com/2008/08/spinach-oshitashi/comment-page-1/#comment-497 Spinach Waffle Nougat? « 365 Foods Fri, 26 Mar 2010 12:37:00 +0000 http://juliesrawambition.wordpress.com/?p=419#comment-497 [...] also found this recipe which relies on marinating the spinach instead of cooking it and I think it sounds really [...] [...] also found this recipe which relies on marinating the spinach instead of cooking it and I think it sounds really [...]

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